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               Jacques M. 
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			               Vladislav Kern                 Vlad 
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                       Posted - Jun 24 2009 :  08:45:11 AM
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       Hello Jacques! 
  Amazing!!!!! I never thought I'd see this day but it did happen!! Congratulations! Now we need to find the #67722 to see whether FED-S production was sustained in groups or was just randomly picked regular model and modified.
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                               Jacques M. 
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                       Posted - Jun 24 2009 :  09:20:13 AM
                        
                        
                      
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                        Hi Vlad!
  It can take several centuries to find the # 67722!   Anyway, these two cameras were certainly engraved with the same machine tool using the same regulatings: the second "7" is slightly upwards on both. But the clip is no exactly the same. Perhaps made outside?
  Amitiés. Jacques. | 
                     
                    
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               zhang                 Kievuser 
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                       Posted - Jun 24 2009 :  11:27:38 AM
                        
                        
                      
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               James McGee                 James McGee 
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                       Posted - Jun 26 2009 :  3:44:12 PM
                        
                        
                      
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                       Hi Jacques,   Congtratulations, truly astounding !!! I think that now we will all be looking through our Fed-1 cameras in the search for 67722, and 67725   Best wishes to all Jim.  | 
                     
                    
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			               Aidas Pikiotas                 AidasCams 
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                       Posted - Jun 29 2009 :  03:43:37 AM
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       Hi Jacques,
  it's fantastic, my best congratulations!!! It was my old dream to have a pair of cameras with consecutive numbers indeed   You've made my dream into reality, BRAVO!
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                               Jacques M. 
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                       Posted - Jun 29 2009 :  08:50:05 AM
                        
                        
                      
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                        Hi friends!
  Thanks!  
  To be honest, I didn't really look for cameras with consecutive numbers: I thought it was impossible. And when I saw this serial # 66724, I first thought it was not unknown to me. And after having checked my other NKVDs....
  But it's only hazard: what are the chances to get such a couple when there are about 128000 NKVDs (1c to 1e) and 13000 S among them?
  Merci, Aidas! It's marvelous to share such dreams!
  Amitiés. Jacques. 
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			               Milo Schekkerman                 Valkir1987 
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                       Posted - Aug 15 2009 :  08:58:08 AM
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                         http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/1582009_76777.jpg
  I recently got this one on ebay. A Fed NKVD with the serial number 76777. It came a week ago and I gave it a full cla and new curtains. (cleaning and relubricating all moving parts)
  The speed selector had and extra 1/1000 speed drilled, but there is a small screw in the dial that prevents selecting it! When the screw is removed the time of 1/1000 works. This is the first camera that I opened up which had this extra hole on the dial. 
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               Diego Cabassa                 Diego Cabassa 
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                       Posted - Aug 16 2009 :  10:40:38 AM
                        
                        
                      
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                       quote: Originally posted by Jacques M.
 
  Hello! I have owned the S for several years. But the simple NKVD is a recent discovery. A miracle ? 
 
  
  Hello Jacques, congratuletion for your finding!
  The speed selector had and extra 1/1000 speed drilled, but there is a small screw in the dial that prevents selecting it! When the screw is removed the time of 1/1000 works. This is the first camera that I opened up which had this extra hole on the dial.  
  Thank Milo, for your information about it!
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			               Vladislav Kern                 Vlad 
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                       Posted - Aug 16 2009 :  11:49:27 AM
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       Milo, that's a startling discovery! I wonder if this was an unfinished FED-S or someone mixed up the parts at the factory... quite interesting thanks for posting it!
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               dee * [ adopted ] dowling                 dee 
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                       Posted - Aug 18 2009 :  1:35:55 PM
                        
                        
                      
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                       I would just love that ! consequitive numbers - I am getting to believe that there was quite a lot of mix and match at the various factories - the pressure for quantities must have been immense . 
 
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               Kirill Yegoshin                 SnuSmu 
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			               Vladislav Kern                 Vlad 
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                       Posted - Aug 26 2009 :  09:09:49 AM
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                      |  yea nice lens on it but too bad not original.. | 
                     
                    
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			               Bill Parkinson                 nightphoto 
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                       Posted - Aug 26 2009 :  11:11:57 AM
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       Thanks for showing us Kirill!     Even if the lens is not the original, it shows that FED No.67739 was picked to be a FED-S, and is only 16 camera numbers away from the FED-S No. 67723.
   I have added it to the list of FED-S examples in the WIKI.
 
  Regards, Bill
 
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                               Jacques M. 
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                       Posted - Aug 26 2009 :  2:59:30 PM
                        
                        
                      
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                        Fine! Perhaps we could find one of the 15 cameras between # 67724 and 67739? About Milo's # 76777, I own a special S not far from his (#76862) with ear straps and leather (instead of vulcanite). It seems as if Fed had made different trials for the S at this period... 
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               Stephan Van den Zegel                 stephanvdz 
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               Stephan Van den Zegel                 stephanvdz 
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               levonsa                 levonsa 
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                       Posted - Apr 07 2014 :  03:58:53 AM
                        
                        
                      
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                        Jacques hello! I've had these two cameras, but with a difference in one year! I started to sell FED number 7428. Then one year there was number 7429, but not earlier I had. Now I am ripping my hair out!   All good mood!   http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/742014_123.jpg
 
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                               Jacques M. 
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                       Posted - Apr 07 2014 :  10:10:48 AM
                        
                        
                      
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                       I hope you will find it again!   (your file does not work?)
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                               Jacques M. 
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                       Posted - Aug 24 2014 :  06:00:09 AM
                        
                        
                      
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                       Thanks,Christian!
  In the wiki, we have too two consecutive 1a: the 4642 (mine) and the 4643 (Aidas's).
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			               Milo Schekkerman                 Valkir1987 
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                       Posted - Mar 27 2015 :  4:05:40 PM
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       A common Fed (serial number 114471) from 1939, but with the extra 1/1000 speed drilled in the dial too like the 76777 built the year before. (the dial is made from hardened steel, instead of brass) 
  Another interesting fact is that the lens thread entry is the same as the post war Fed 1f series. 
 
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                               Jacques M. 
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                       Posted - Mar 29 2015 :  08:54:16 AM
                        
                        
                      
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                       Hi Milo,
  Yes, it seems that many NKVD were made with the extra hole giving the 1/1000th. So, what is exactly the difference between a common NKVD and a "S"? Just a problem of regulation, perhaps?
  About the lens, I am not sure to understand. Do you speak of the 39mm screw or of the internal one? The last one, I suppose?
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			               Milo Schekkerman                 Valkir1987 
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                       Posted - Mar 29 2015 :  2:43:25 PM
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       quote: Do you speak of the 39mm screw
  
  Yes, its where the infinity mark stops when you change lenses. Adding a speed of 1/1000 requires extra care when placing and regulating the curtains. 
  The screw in the shutter dial prevents the knob from selecting the fast speed. The FedS has a special selector with a cutout, which fits the screw and the fastest speed. | 
                     
                    
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                               Jacques M. 
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                       Posted - Mar 30 2015 :  02:24:37 AM
                        
                        
                      
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                       Thanks for the detail about the speed selector. I have often dismounted "normal" NKVD and S, but I had never paid attention to that!
  About the lens, I think too of the screw between the crown (distance ring) and the lens (depth of field). Impossible to invert prewar with postwar parts, as it seems. Curious.
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                       Edited by - Jacques M. on Mar 30 2015  07:52:48 AM | 
                     
                    
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