just arrived in my collection

note :
a "no-name" factory design Lubitel (black front paint whith original rivets) may be to be silk screen rebadged in export or just for International exibition ? (never used)
and an original Kristall whithout usual hammered grey enamel.Seem to be factory made like this : soft matt aluminium (whithout any scratches or cracks)...I can confirm never painted.
serial number : 61018045

Good finds Alain I have heard of non painted Krystall before -I wonder if they were done at the end of production? Maybe when the factory realised the painted finish was not popular? Or maybe they had no paint that day! I say this because I have had 2 different Krystalls one had a greenish primer paint under the hammered finish and one didn't, just the hammered paint, suppose anything is possible if supplies are not there and production numbers have to be kept up

Samsung GX-10,too many Russian Lenses, A lot of Zenits, an Almaz 103 a few Yashica,and finally a Minox35GT

Congratulations, Mr. Berry for these two superb finds !!

Hello Alain

For the Krystall I can confirm the existence of this variant. Alexander Schulz showed one in his book "Zenit" from 2003 with the s/n 61021914. When I talked to him about this item he said that he had only found this one and never seen an other later.

Also Alexandr on www.fotoua.com shows one of them at this link:

http://fotoua.com/1cameratip.php?seek2=143&seek1=140&usl=&usl1=&seek3=2&rd=4&st=7

He writes that the s/n observed goes from 61017708 to 62032739. The rarity code "R4" shows that's a uncommon camera.

Aidas shows one of them with s/n 62009728 at:

http://www.sovietcams.com/index.php?1040184497

(well, maybe it's not exactly the same type of camera or just a variation of it?)

In the book "1200 cameras" you can find one of this kind on page 136 (or has it a chroming like the earlier Kristall 2 prototypes from 1960?). I can't read the text ... :-/

After all it's a very nice camera, one of the ones I like the most in the Zenit collection.

Best wishes - Guido

Hello Alain,

Very nice finds you have there! Nice way to start the year!

Regards, Bill

thanks friends for vey informative comments !
So, what can you tell about Lubitel ?

Just arrived in your collection, but only for the moment, Alain, if I understand well?
Nothing really interesting to say about your Lubitel. But it's the first time I see a non hammered Krystall... Thanks!

Amitiйs. Jacques.

My latest investment



Best regards,
Juhani

Hi Juani...
well done : a real rarity !

Question about Kristal: is top of the camera made from stamped aluminum or it pressure molded as on all Kristals?
Juhani - good way to start a New Year!!!!

Dear Alain,

congratulations on you new findings!!! Both cameras are great, but I would like to say few words about your NO-NAME Lubitel ... I have an information in my archives, that a limited quantity of No-name Lubitels with new LOMO logo on the lens were intended for foreign distributor indeed. I was lucky to see a camera, identical to yours, but with additional nameplate plaque fixed in the blank place. The particular camera had name "LUNA" and were intended for Greece (???) market ...

... but if I could vote for all cameras shown here, my vote goes for Juhani's Liliput obviously ...

Best Regards,
Aidas

... knowing, that many members here are the honest Smena camera lovers, let me show you an interesting variation of early Smena-8M camera below ...



Best Regards,
Aidas

dear Okinek : my opinion (I am not a metal work specialist ) it is a die cast aluminium made.
dear Aidas : thanks a lot (as usual !) for information....it will be nice if you can find a picture of "Luna" camera brand (but I think quite impossible now...?)

Alain

My very last is a Fed 1b first serie, without clip.
Not exceptional, but I was looking for for at least 2 years...
And it has an interesting one turn lens.


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/712010_

Amitiйs. Jacques.

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... but if I could vote for all cameras shown here, my vote goes for Juhani's Liliput obviously ...

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Just waiting to see an even more interesting camera here soon

Best regards,
Juhani

If it's a vote, no doubt, mine is for Juhani's camera too!
Those coloured Lilliput are pure marvels!

Amitiйs. Jacques.

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Originally posted by mermoz37

dear Okinek : my opinion (I am not a metal work specialist ) it is a die cast aluminium made.
dear Aidas : thanks a lot (as usual !) for information....it will be nice if you can find a picture of "Luna" camera brand (but I think quite impossible now...?)

Alain

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Alain,

everything is possible in behalf of good friends ... Below you will find a picture of Luna-Lubitel, sent to me by camera collector from Greece some time ago ...



Best Regards,
Aidas

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Originally posted by cedricfan


Just waiting to see an even more interesting camera here soon

Best regards,
Juhani

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Hi Juhani,

may be your beutiful Liliput is waiting for elder brother Liliput?



Best regards,
Aidas

nothing impossible for you ...damned Aidas !!!
So thanks a lot !
Alain

Just what I waited to see here, the brother! Somehow I knew that you would surprise us

Best regards,
Juhani